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BILLY V2.0 · Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:45 am

Delphi wrote: Awww...aren't you sweet! How's the love life going?? Cute new avatar btw.

What's that? How's my love life?? Well if all the hours I've logged on Facebook is any indication, clearly not so good. Actually I can't complain...it's just life...c'est la vie!!

So get this - one of the attorneys I work for is on Facebook...it's a bit weird...I can see when he's not working. And it's a little odd to see one's "boss" looking kinda "out of character" on there....just a little weird. I guess this is life in the new-age world eh???

BILLY V2.0 wrote: i told delphi to visit the forum so don't worry guys i think things will be picking pretty soon

my boss added me on facebook and i keep getting these stupid application invites where she sends me kisses and stuff, and yesterday on the phone she was like "ohh you're ranked my hottest friend. i didn't do that! how did that happen?" it's really fucking awkward. her facebook status is constantly "...is lonely" etc, and whenever i have a meeting with a woman in the office she'll act all weird and say things like "oh she's a looker!"

the whole project chanology thing is absolutely hilarious. the pictures and the blog reports have brought me so much happiness. somethingawful have made their own tongue in cheek trip reports which are genius!

“It’s okay. We’ll get you to a doctor! You’re going to be okay,” says a muffled voice coming from behind the smirking Guy Fawkes mask, as he rips open my shirt, examining my wound. I know it’s not true, though. My life has been flipped, turned upside down.

“Not this time, I’m afraid.” I smile weakly, before I realize he cannot see it behind my mask. “It’s over. My life’s been closed due to AIDS. I’m just another deadfag.” I lay my head back against the concrete and stare at the sky, and in the bright light of the sun, I see the face of God-chan framed by red hair, and that soothing familiar voice telling me that he is never going to give me up. There is no pain. I know that the most epic lulz are yet to come. “With my dying breath,” I say, “I cast the gay on Scientology.” Longcat—who is long--does a barrel roll, forever. Desu. Desu. I look up at my kingdom. I am finally there.

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Let's rock this shit
February 10th, 2008 - 9:46 am by AstleyMan555

Camo pants - Check
Steel toed boots - Check
iPod speakers - Check
The Chan's Greatest Hits - Check
Guy Fawkes Mask - Check

I'm ready, let's do this.

M@THERF*%KER!!!!!
February 10th, 2008 - 10:03 am by AstleyMan555

G*D DAMNIT.

I was so pumped up that I said a rude word to my mom while she was driving me to the protest. She turned the car around and grounded me, can you believe that? What a b!tch. Next time me and the Ron Paul society gatecrash the debate club, I'm changing my speech. George Bush isn't the biggest obstacle to the democratic process in America, it's that bitch Janelle Harper aka my freakin' mom...

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According to his dossier, Lulzkhov-chan was in for fail. He'd admitted it under investigation — ya rly, he had surrendered in order to set up 4chan the bomb, and returned from lie-anetics camp to do a barrel roll for Scifag intelligence. What the barrel roll could be, neither Lulzkhov-chan himself nor his interrogator could imagine. They left it at that — just "a barrel roll."

The counter-pwn /b/oys had shooped the woop out of him. The choice was simple enough: do not want sign, and Lulzkhov-chan can has grave, or want sign, and live a bit longer. In Soviet Russia, grave digs you.

He wanted sign.

-One Day In The Life of Internets Desunovich

there is a part of me that sort of wishes i was part of it all, but it's all just too absurd.

BILLY V2.0 · Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:51 pm

i've just remembered something that annoys me - on QI when the guests play their buzzer noise at the beginning the audience laugh at alan davies regardless of what noise he has/whether it's even slightly amusing. i don't know why it annoys me but it does.

Dananiel · Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:36 pm

I'm getting into it properly now, which really means spending more time than I should on ebaums (er, code for that other place ending with chan and beginning with 4) that thing you pasted above is funny, but it does pretty much miss the point. The operation last Sunday works on two basic levels - Anonymous gather and intimidate/show their force in numbers to the outnumbered scientologists whilst other anon (plus just regular people not wearing masks) hand out leaflets and information to the public who are drawn in at the sight of 600 anonymous in V masks singing the fresh prince theme tune. It's all part of the impenetrable surface that Anonymous has, and it's just as much about 'epic lulz' as it is about freedom of speech. I think it's fantastic.

But it's also worth pointing out that the perception of Scientology needs to change, because it isn't just some crazy club that celebrities join, they have centers all over the world (even in little place in this country like Plymouth) and they prey on the weak and vulnerable. They make people become detached from their friends and family, draw them into debt and then hold them prisoner mentally and physically until they either become subservient or simply die. They actually have what is essentially a concentration camp, believe it or not, and they send non-believers there. Escaping is not easy.

Check this place for a chilling list of deaths at the hands of Scientology: http://www.whyaretheydead.net/

Please research the subject further if you're interested, some good stuff is available at http://www.xenu.net

If you want an indication of how serious it is - they are registered as a religion (despite the fact it's a hugely wealthy cult) and have been mingling with the met police getting their shit into public schools. The police have been complying because, quelle surprise, they've got money. You can rape kids and it doesn't matter, just as long as you've got the cash.

They need to be stopped and they can be stopped. I've got my silly mask ready, I'm gonna be distributing flyers and leaflets in the coming weeks and hopefully be at the March demonstration, and if you can make it (any of you) then so should you. You don't have to have a V mask (they're about £5 in FP) you can just wrap your face with a scarf or wear a different mask (the reason you need to cover your face is because Scientologists film and harass anybody who speaks out against them, though the chances are you'll be fine in the big London group, it's still a significant risk that they'll catch you on camera or attempt to follow you, which is why you should leave with somebody)

Sounds like paranoia but they really are like this! As I say, do a bit of research and come along, it's genuinely important (AND I hear the one last Sunday was fun, too)

RANT OVER

Delphi · Mon Feb 18, 2008 2:44 pm

Hey Monsters! :) What's this?? A rant on Scientology! Awesome...please allow me to chime.

So years ago, whenever I had down time at work (before the advent of the notorious time-waster that is Facebook) I would better waste my time researching things...(generally odd things pulled me in) - and I'm not sure how it happened, but once day I started on Scientology.

Holy MOTHER OF GOD! Now there is some weird sh*t. Let's establish one-thing for certain, it's a cult. No question - it fulfills all the criteria necessary to be deemed a cult - religion my a** - they just file as that to avoid paying taxes. Indicentally I believe Germany is the only country that still refuses to define them as a religion - and if you check it out, there is a lot of hatred towards the German government by Scientologists as a result.

Do they prey on the weak, the depressed, the lost, the confused? Check. Do they have an extremely nefarious and shady past? Check (see Operation Snow White).

OH! But the thing I find MOST disturbing about them - is there collection of Front Groups - i.e. supposed "independent organizations" that are a separate and wholly and unrelated establishment to Scientology - There are tons of these groups they have set up. Why I remember about 3 years ago or so going to my car and having some bullsh*t flyer shoved on my windshield telling me how "bad" psychology was etc..etc...distributed by some group whose name escapes me - anyway, knowing what I do about Scientology I checked it out and it was of course, one of their front-groups. A bit disturbing really. :?

BILLY V2.0 · Mon Feb 18, 2008 3:27 pm

i've read a fair bit about them too prior to this 'anonymous' war and the subsequent media publicity they've gained and i don't really find them any more abhorrent than 99% of the other religion/cults out there. every religious group or band of people believing in some sort of deity has their mad moments in history, what's editing a few youtubes and killing your own disciples in the grand scheme of things? i hope once anonymous has taken down scientology they move onto another evil group or something.

Dananiel · Mon Feb 18, 2008 3:44 pm

You can't just put religion slash cult, they're two very different things. If you go to a church or a mosque and ask about their beliefs, they'll happily tell you. If you go to the "church" of Scientology, they'll bombard you with bullshit and demand that you hand over huge sums of cash to know anything about them.

Yes, religions all have their evils within, but what doesn't?

I would happily argue that Scientology presents a greater threat to the general public than any major (and most minor) religions in practice.

Delphi · Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:19 pm

Yeah I think the key thing here is that yes, Organized Religions do all have horrible moments in history - but is that due to the actual religion per se, or the people that are manipulating it at that time? Then again, it's hard to differentiate those who "organize" the religion and the message of that religion...hmm.....

But with Scientology, well, just look at the founder. That says it all. They guy had "issues" to say the least...and what was the purpose of his creating Scientology? To better humanity? No...to make serious scroll...let's face it. He knew what he was doing.

BILLY V2.0 · Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:38 pm

i'm sure hubbard knew exactly what he was doing. i think the Anonymous cause is a good one obviously but just from a personal opinion i think there are better causes out there. what about women living in the middle east in poverty stricken extremely strict muslim towns who are killed in public, often in front of their children, by people from their own religion because they've gone outside in a headscarf that isn't black or grey or something.

i know it's an extremely easy thing to say and a pointless throwaway comment but crikey o'reilly religion is silly. i find it hard to sympathise with people mixed up in scientology because (i assume) they've at least gone some way to seek it out themself. i don't think you can 'accidentally' join scientology or be born into it can you? (it's pretty new so i suppose this will become a reality for another generation) i might be wrong here. cults and religion are both equally baffling to me, but i feel more sorry for my friend who was forced to wear a turban for the first 15 years of his life, attend gurdwara and base his life around beliefs and ethos forced on him by his parents purely because his parents believe it than people who actually give money to a group of people that believe in aliens and stuff.

Dananiel wrote: I would happily argue that Scientology presents a greater threat to the general public than any major (and most minor) religions in practice.

can you expand on this? i haven't really thought about scientology on a global scale affecting normal people like me. at the moment my view is basically if you're silly enough to get mixed up in their evil-doings it's nee concern of mine. i'm interested.

Dananiel · Mon Feb 18, 2008 6:03 pm

BILLY V2.0 wrote: i'm sure hubbard knew exactly what he was doing. i think the Anonymous cause is a good one obviously but just from a personal opinion i think there are better causes out there. what about women living in the middle east in poverty stricken extremely strict muslim towns who are killed in public, often in front of their children, by people from their own religion because they've gone outside in a headscarf that isn't black or grey or something.

Why should we be fighting to change that? It's so arrogant of us to apply our rules and principles on a entirely different culture and religion, even if the basic principle of repressing women is fundamentally and morally wrong. A lot of Muslim women are happy to live under those conditions, and those conditions are not universally as stated, extremism exists even within middle eastern areas. The point is, it's a complex issue and it's not one that we're tackling properly. Scientology is not a complex issue. It's a cult that poses a genuine threat to our lives.

Quote: i know it's an extremely easy thing to say and a pointless throwaway comment but crikey o'reilly religion is silly.

Silly? Religion isn't all brainwashing. People use it for guidance, and to assume that they are somehow intellectually inferior or in some way bereft of sanity is, again, arrogant. Most major religions have been around for thousands of years and are extremely complex and far-reaching. You need to talk to more religious people.

Quote: i find it hard to sympathise with people mixed up in scientology because (i assume) they've at least gone some way to seek it out themself. i don't think you can 'accidentally' join scientology or be born into it can you? (it's pretty new so i suppose this will become a reality for another generation) i might be wrong here.

Don't blame the victims, that gets us nowhere. Scientology has been around for since the 50s, so yes people have been born into it. They prey on the weak and needy, the emotionally unsettled and sometimes the flatout insane. You can hardly blame these people for being taken in, at the beginning stages of entering into the world of Scientology they make you feel extremely loved and accepted, something that a lot of people at low points crave above all else. The CoS know this and that's why they use it. Then as soon as you've placed your life and your money in their hands, they've got you and they don't let go.

Quote: cults and religion are both equally baffling to me, but i feel more sorry for my friend who was forced to wear a turban for the first 15 years of his life, attend gurdwara and base his life around beliefs and ethos forced on him by his parents purely because his parents believe it than people who actually give money to a group of people that believe in aliens and stuff.

Just to point out at this stage: I'm not denying that major religions have issues, too, serious ones at that...but to be perfectly frank, it's not something that we as outsiders can or should tackle. They're not imposing anything on outsiders, so it's important for general peace and harmony (man) that we live and let live. Yes, maybe your friend was unhappy, but all of our parents fuck us up in some way or other. Religion isn't the only factor.

Quote: Dananiel wrote: I would happily argue that Scientology presents a greater threat to the general public than any major (and most minor) religions in practice.

can you expand on this? i haven't really thought about scientology on a global scale affecting normal people like me. at the moment my view is basically if you're silly enough to get mixed up in their evil-doings it's nee concern of mine. i'm interested. [/quote]

I can't remember exactly off the top of my head, but I believe they have about 8 or 10 Scientology "churches" in England. They have them all over the world (not literally everywhere, but they are quite evenly scattered about) and are slowly growing. Look at it like this: how many people do you know that are depressed and or vulnerable? I'm guessing you know of at least one, maybe even including yourself sometimes. Now consider how many people the recruitment team from the church of Scientology come into contact with on a daily basis, statistically, they're bound to start talking to several vulnerable people who are quite likely to be drawn in and have their lives destroyed. Every single day. Across the whole country and elsewhere in the world. And that isn't even the biggest problem! They don't like anybody speaking out against them, and I mean they really don't like it. If you walk up to a Scientologist and express your dislike for their practices, you will be stalked, harassed and threatened. They have an intense track record for it, if they catch anybody being anti-Scientology, they turn nasty. Read about their "Fair Game" practice here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_Game_%28Scientology%29

While they may be relatively small in number compared to other religions, they are abhorrently fascistic and threatening. There is no moral issue with tackling Scientology, it's unique in the sense that it is a "religion" that serves no other purpose but to make lots of money. If we just pass this up and say "they're just crackpot idiots" then where do you draw the line? If we fight against every single small threat to our freedom of speech that arises, then our freedom of speech can never be faced with an unmountable danger. The world is in the state it is now from passiveness and a misunderstanding of what's important.

RChappo · Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:34 am

Everything you need to know about Scientology can be learned just by knowing that Tom Cruise is a prominent member. If that's not reason enough to stay away then I don't know what is.

BILLY V2.0 · Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:44 am

alright dan you've won me over. when is the next anonymous meet? if it's in london and i'm not at risk of kidnapping i'll come along. is any of the top level scientology stuff actually available? the stuff you've got to pay big bucks for, surely somebody has leaked it.

nospam · Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:01 am

doubt it..and if you read it, they'll probably kill you. surprised everyone in this thread isn't dead yet to be honest just by talking about it.

now, cloverfield...

BILLY V2.0 · Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:16 am

i want to see that film but i can't be bothered because it's from the guy that made lost so i know it'll just infuriate me.

nospam · Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:20 am

im trying not to know anything about it but at the same time i bet i'll never see it either.

Delphi · Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:09 am

Burnt popcorn in the microwave.

Overheating something in the microwave so that you have to WAIT to eat it when you're starving.

Getting coffee in the morning that's boiling and again, it takes about a half hour to drink it (see Starschmucks).

(I'm on a food-kick)