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RChappo · Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 3:25 pm Post subject: Overrated Bands.

Yeah we did it on the old forum but I thought it might be worth ressurecting it.

my vote = GUNS 'N ROSES.

Overrated tosh. Music for 14 year old boys or older men wth a mental age of 14. Over here in the USA they are considered rock gods of the highest order and always appear highly in those Top 50 lists concerning music. I never saw what was so great about them, they were average at best. If they weren't churning out sub Lynyrd Skynyrd rock tracks it was horrible vomit inducing power ballads. And they were oh so witty with the lead singers name being an anagram of Oral Sex too weren't they? (oh snigger snigger...excuse me while I go off and split my sides). Bloody juvenille psuedo macho sexually retarded fuckwits the lot of them. It wouldn't have been so bad if they had some kind of irony about them...but they didn't.
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Dananiel · Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 3:34 pm Post subject:

Pearl Jam. Just, why bother? It's unbelievably dreary, pointless grunge.

Also, I know you won't like this one but Gensis. I just don't get it, it makes me want to listen to just about anything else.

BILLY V2.0 · Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 3:40 pm Post subject:

Yeah GnR are awful. I don't really understand the popularity of the Foo Fighters either. Obvious choices like Robbie Williams spring to mind as well. I guess its all about what the idiot public buy though.
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Dananiel · Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 4:03 pm Post subject:

Foo Fighters have had their moments, but they're generally not worth it.

Turtlebonce · Sexmonster Joined: 02 Feb 2006 Posts: 763

You know the beatles? what are they about? eh? Eh?
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LDIF · Sexmonster Joined: 12 Feb 2006 Posts: 242

I hate The Beatles - Liverpool's economy single-handedly relies on that group of Scouse cunts.
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Dananiel · Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 2:22 pm Post subject:

If you hate The Beatles, you haven't listened to them enough.

I wouldn't say that about any other band - but it's true.

RChappo · Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 4:22 pm Post subject:

I think it's just a Manc/Scouse rivalry thing really.

But then again Manchester responded strongly with Freddy & The Dreamers so fair play to them.

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BILLY V2.0 · Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 4:29 pm Post subject:

I used to think the Beatles were overrated but I've listened to them alot recently and they are really good. I think there popularity is due to more than there music though, obviouslyyyyyy.
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The Great Spoon Face · Sexmonster Joined: 20 Feb 2006 Posts: 143

I bloody love the Beatles but how can they not be overrated? No band in history could be as good as they are made out to be. It's simply not possible.

My vote is for U2. I don't want to talk about them and you cant make me. I'm sure I'll think of more and post here later...

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Dananiel · Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 4:57 pm Post subject:

How do you mean? They didn't just become the most famous band in the world by chance and the music isn't half bad. They're the most famous band in the world* because they didn't just write exceedingly fantastic music (they even created new melodies, Maccas got a fair few under his belt) but they revolutionised popular music because of it (you could argue they revolutionised popular culture in general too, to an extent). It's easy to listen to what they've done now and take it for granted but in the 60s it was really important. Naturally, like most bands that revolutionise a genre or supposedly "invent" a new sound, they didn't just do it out of nothing, everyone has an inspiration but it's how you deal with the inspiration. Like Radiohead's Kid A, all of those techniques and conceptial ambient/electronica ideas had been going in the electronica scene for years, it evend ates back to some of Eno's albums. But Kid A is by far the most succesful album of its type, which isn't just down to Radiohead being an established band, it's down to it being a fucking brilliant album, just like how The Beatles might have been inspired by Indian music or other 60s bands who weren't at the forefront of the musical scene. Why am I typing this? Nobody cares.

Anyway, they are great but they've got loads of layers for you to get through. Just when you think you've heard an album or a song of theirs you see it from a new angle and it becomes great again. There's a documentary on them I've got that goes into the technical side of why they were great, and why Macca was an underrated musician (well, they don't say that but he was)

But to be fair, they've done their fair share of shit songs. Abbey Road riles me a bit, apparently at that time Harrison was approaching Paul and John with songs that would later appear on All Things Must Pass (though I don't know which songs, any idea, Chappo?) and they were turned down, yet Maxwell's Silver fucking Hammer is on there. Seems fishy to me, like did Paul reject them because of his ego and because he didn't want Harrison writing too much of The Beatles catalogue? Still, Harrison wrote the two best songs on that album so swings and roundabouts.

*Debatable, I know.

Dananiel · Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 5:00 pm Post subject:

RChappo · Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 5:20 pm Post subject:

Dananiel · Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 5:53 pm Post subject:

My main issue with All Things Must Pass is that it's bloated. You're right about those jams at the end, they just shouldn't be there. He could have easily squeezed it all down to one really brilliant single album. The wall of sound thing does lend itself extrordinarily well to most songs on disc 1, though. Namely Wah-Wah, which is one of my favourite songs ever, it's superb.

Have you seen that footage of them rehearsing Maxwell's? It might be on the DVD anthology, I can't remember. The rest of them don't look that pleased to be playing it.

RChappo · Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 7:23 pm Post subject: